Looking Forward to 2022 and Beyond with Phnam Bagley & Virgil Calejesan

Episode #11

"You have to collaborate. You have to answer these hard questions. You have to test everything thoroughly. And be ready to have that idea be obsolete within two years. That is the world we work in and that's why we need more designers to to work this way. To be curious and and to work both on the technical side and on the magical side of design. And go back and forth within the two. Otherwise, we're just going to get stuck."  - Phnam Bagley

This episode, Phnam Bagley of Nonfiction Design and Virgil Calejesan of Anduril Industries join us as we discuss what does it mean to be a futurist in design and where does design sit on our mission to explore space.

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